Васко Глигоров/Глигоријевич

LouWeed напиша: eve sto pisuvat grcistava niz forumite... Vasko (Vasilije Gligorijevic) for 48 hours has not given points of life. The last communication that I had with him was 2 days ago where has notified me that after information that he had, FYROM regime will be arrested him again. Vasko needs our help. I remind Vasko Gligorijevic is an Serbian origin activist, strong criticizer of “Pseudomacedonism”. The international community and especially the Human Rights Organizations should intervene energetically and put an end to stop this comedy.

ne mu treba pomos nasa, nego pomos na stucni lica, so diplomi

eve sto pisuvat grcistava niz forumite...

Vasko (Vasilije Gligorijevic) for 48 hours has not given points of life. The last communication that I had with him was 2 days ago where has notified me that after information that he had, FYROM regime will be arrested him again. Vasko needs our help. I remind Vasko Gligorijevic is an Serbian origin activist, strong criticizer of “Pseudomacedonism”. The international community and especially the Human Rights Organizations should intervene energetically and put an end to stop this comedy.

Изменето од LouWeed - 06.Јули.2009 во 11:19

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/104778



The Struggle for the Liberation of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)

Australian Macedonian Advisory Council

June 03, 2009

What can be said about the present day situation in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia which could encourage a goal-oriented initiative towards deconstruction of its ultranationalist, parochial and irredentist ethos? The well-know state of affairs created by the overwhelming influence of the ideology of Pseudomacedonism, a patchwork of ideas establishing a several millenia old frame of reference within all levels of domestic discourse has been and still is a phenomenon not noticed by social anthropologists and other relevant thinkers. In the Balkans, where historicism often takes precedence over future-oriented pragmatism, FYROMian oppositional defiance to Greece is one of the key incentives that threatens escalation of conflict of the type typical for the region for much of the 1990´s. While Pseudomacedonian politics, with all of its core component: Hellenophobia and Slavophobia, formulation of "Macedonian exceptionalism" with common leitmotivs of mental and moral superiority based on biological determinism certainly deserves recognition as an academic question, preferably treated on multidisciplinary grounds, the objective of establishment of practical policy, both in form of general principles and practically applied methodology, has failed on multiple grounds. The problem is exacerbated by attempt to analyze the social and ethnopsychological reality of present-day FYROM in terms of "objective", quantifiable parameters, an approach used by such international organization as the European Union and NATO, among others.


While systematic research and cross-comparison of the institutionalized, faceless type may create an illusion of "objectivity" and rationality and while there is no doubt that to a large extent (but with limited potential to portray the situation in all of its picturesque colorfulness) some of these data display accurate parameters of socio-economic affairs in FYROM, these are not much usefulness in deconstruction of the sheer anti-human dimension of the present-day political vector of FYROM. With a strong reflection on the daily, mundane lives of citizen of that small statelet, with a profound impact on psychological links among its citizen and culmination in the construction of a small, isolated world, cut from both the mainstream of trends in Europe and from infusion of alternativeness, the postmodern "nation building" of fascistoid intensity in FYROM is a phenomena with no precedent in the realm of modern politics.


The main premises of the plot are as follows: FYROM, a country which inherited colonial borders set in a mixture of arbitrary decision, de facto post-conflict situations and more than 4 decades of Communist totalitarian rule, is not a product of a natural, usual nation-building in which elite-imposed foresight provides selective continuity and discontinuity with the tradition. Instead, the concrete set of circumstances in which FYROM or "Republika Makedonija" emerged as an established subject of international politics (the Balkan wars 1912-1913, the post-1943 reestablishment of "Yugoslavia" and the bloody dissolution of the later in 1990´s) is indicative of conformism , coupled with dissonance among its elite, which inherited a premodern population, bypassed by the Enlightenment and Rationalism. For the early founding fathers of Pseudomacedonian nationalism, the revolutionaries of the so-called VMRO, the ultimate goal, in whose name much grandiloquence and pathos has been expressed and much blood was shed, was the emancipation of the "Macedonian Bulgarian". The fact of their declared Bulgarian character, which is in harmony with enormous number of testimonies of outsiders intimately acquainted with the ethnological situation on the ground is not an obstacle to local historians-the clergy of current FYROMian ultranationalism, to enlist them into the rank of symbolic figures of alleged "Macedonian ethnicity". This "ethnicity", completely unbeknown to history, is one of the last enduring legacies of the Cold War, having grown in Tito´s Yugoslavia as an organ of the Communist empire specialized in Anti-Greek predatory geopolitics. The choice of the new nation´s name was an adaptation of VMRO nurtured idea that the inhabitants of the geographic region of Macedonia, the form of which is a recent construct unrelated with historic Macedonia in strict sense, while having a Bulgarian ethnic affinity are nevertheless also the only true "Macedonians" in some mystically superior sense excluding other inhabitants of the region, even bordering on parallel ethnicity, non-exclusive and synonymous with the wider Bulgarian one. The Commintern in 1934 and the Communist Yugoslavia took this absurd proposition to its logical extreme, severing the consciousness of the Slavic population of the wider Macedonian region from its Bulgarian core. The massive allocation of funds to creating national institutions: schools, press, universities, museums, academic centers by Belgrade to the southern Yugoslav province in order to sustain the new national narratives provided Yugoslavia safety against Bulgaria, Serbian unitarianism and provided a pretext for expansion into Northern Greece, the most serious attempt of which was the Yugoslav support for Communist combatants in Greek Macedonia (or Macedonia proper, as the present-day north Greek region is nearly identical geographically to Ancient Macedonia) during the Greek Civil War (1946-1949).


The entire social development of the FYROM, as a nominal "Republic" in Yugoslavia, while heavily influenced by application of local version of Communism in political, economic and legal practice, was – quite unlike the situation in other Republics where traditional ethnohistorical narratives were viewed as dangerous to the concept of unitary Yugoslavia - characterized by vivid expression of nationalistic sentiments encouraged by the local leadership and methodically carried through all conventional means of propaganda. TV and radio broadcasts, including documentaries, docudramas, songs of various genres with nationalistic overtones were prevalent form of public entertainment. Maps of "Greater Macedonian Homeland" incorporating Northern Greece and large section of Bulgaria were regular fixture in thousands school classrooms. Impressive body of government-subsidized and obligatory belletristic literature dealing with "national" themes, "national tragedies" in which the image of the "exploited Macedonian" as a tragic hero was central in a social-realist imagery imprinted a sense of victimization and deprivation in generation of Pseudomacedonians. With the complete independence from Yugoslavia in 1992 and inheritance of intact – although quite obsolete – infrastructure, as a result of avoiding inclusion into the series of Yugoslav wars, the young and small Balkan nation would perhaps had promising start if it was not for the fact that in those times of change it was left without national intelligentsia, in terms of intellectuals of non-Communist affiliation. The extermination of the Bulgarian leading strata immediately after the World War II, the expulsion of pre-war Serb colonists and the brain-drain from 1960´s onwards via emigration mostly in the Angloshpere countries depleted the nation from the existence of transitional elite which would redefine and reestablish suitable values and set dynamics of social recovery.


In the presence of such spiritual vacuum, what initially started as an imported speculation – that the origin of the "Macedonian" nation should be sought in unbroken racial, linguistic and cultural continuity with the Macedonians of Philip II and Alexander the Great – became throughout the 1990´s the main integrative trend which unified folklore, pop-culture, the ubiquitous "coffee-shop politics", academia and the public education system. In the image of Ancient Macedonians, a Greek entity which created brief global empire as a substratum of Hellenistic civilization, suddenly the entire nation found itself. No more the colloquial "little Macedonian" ( "Makedončeto") was a passive observer to his destiny as created by his (demonized) neighbors. No more the "Macedonians" just an aggregate of impoverished people in a poor, landlocked Balkan country undistinguished culturally, technologically, being outside the realm of the global trends at the eve of Third millennium. Now they could boast a tradition old thousands of years, not only as a historical narrative, but more importantly – in a naïve, popular biodeterministic wisdom – as an evidence of what may became of this group: a great, mighty people of first-rank international relevance.


From 2006, when the Government of VMRO-DPMNE led by Nikola Gruevski, a man mostly thought of as a obscure economic technocrat, won the popular vote, the entire revolt of people defeated so often in conflicts and competitions in modern times escalated, looking for a symbolic compensation. While it would be impractical to list the protagonists, the chronology, and more importantly, to analyze the causes of enormous popularity the fascist reorganization of society and the complete consolidation of a tribalist, xenophobic, collectivist FYROMian nation guided by pseudohistorical delusions, it is sufficient to say that the very precedent left the international community helpless, since no norms which would be used to extrapolate solution to the problem of this kind exist. There is no known instance that an ethnic group, on apparently voluntary and almost unanimous basis, completely rejected its ethnological nature – in this case of being a Slavic ethnic group originating in medieval times from the boreal regions of Eastern Europe, a fact held in consensus in global academia – and based it entire cultural, economical, educational policies, its "reason of being" on outrageous claims on continuity with an unrelated Greek ancient people with whose territory it has a very tiny overlap. Consequently, for now, Europe is left powerless in dealing with Nikola Gruevski, a brutal, authoritarian dictator who mesmerizes his nation with fables of "ancient imperial glory" in light of total inability to solve real problems faced by FYROM: 40% unemployment, 300 USD salaries, scientific and educational decay, the threat by the Albanian-led Islamic separatist block which accounts for 38% of FYROM´s population. What initially started as – undoubtedly clever in Machiavellian sense – Gruevski´s idea to provoke Greece in order to gain some negative diplomatic feedback and portray itself as the "savior of the endangered nation", galvanizing people around "collective virtues" is now an elaborate fascist ideology, with its thinkers, institutions, manners of manifestation, unwritten codes, popular electoral and activist base and symbolism.


It is certain that this criminal situation won´t resolve out of itself. The manner in which global bureaucracy can act is limited by the aforementioned idiosyncrasy of the way of rule of VMRO gang. As North Korea exemplified, tyranny based on ignorance and fear may propagate itself for a considerable period. The opposition in FYROM itself is relatively negligible and very much bellow the critical mass needed for ignition of a popular revolt. Insofar, the organized political opposition did not offered the most needed solution to the problem: radical rejection of Pseudomacedonism in it´s fabricated entirety. The internal identity debate is on the marginal position outside the spotlight of the wider audience and is being sustained by informal networks loyal to central authorities. In terms of productivity, capability of potential maverick scholars to change the discourse from within is limited due to total financial dependency and certain ostracization. Sustained pressures from outside are necessary in order to implement long-term solution for a prosperous Balkan without VMRO, without Gruevski. While the issue should be reviewed with the scrutiny typical of serious scholarship, such effort cannot culminate in the much needed change in short-term. Politics should follow and align itself with science and practical activism should be supported by external factors in order to bring down the Pseudomacedonism, an ideology that threatens to plunge South-Eastern Europe into war and to help liberate the Slavs of FYROM from the cult of state-imposed grandomania and paranoia.


Vasko Gligorijević

03-VI-2009

Skoplje, FYROM

miroslav_g8 напиша: znaci , kakva  e razlikata pomedju pisuvanjeto na nekoe tamu bolno covece i onoj sto zboruva so umrenite ? ........

"Зборува со умрените"??? На кого мислиш, Маршале?

Сурфав на Youtube и за некое дивно чудо налетав на некојси Срболог т.е. некое типче кое се претставува како Васко Глигоријевиќ кое вели дека е од Скопје, ФИРОМ. После просурфав и по некои наши страни и видов дека пациентов има подолга историја на делување на србче кое ги возљубува грците. Сега типчево ревносно си ја работи работава околу оцрнување на Македонија и преставување на земјава како крадец на историјата на Грците. И сега доколку се посети неговиот канал на Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/Srbolog ќе видите дека тој припаѓа на некое движење Словенска Филхеленска Мрежакоја пак како што си кажуваат имаат за цел да го дискредитира се она што е македонско и да го промовира славјанско - грчкото пријателство.Ме зачудуваат следниве работи:

   1. Од каде му се толку средства на типчево да ги следи ревносно сите ТВ програми, истите на англиски да ги преведува и да ги постира на неговиот канал + да ја апдејтира неговата веб страна
   2. Како успева да направи толкав клипинг на настаните во медиумите кога за тоа вообичаено е потребна цела ПР агенција
   3. Чим ја објавува својата слика, име и презиме сигурен сум дека се надева (или барем оној што го оркестрира) дека ќе предизвика некој инцидент и истиот ќе предизвика поголема меѓународна бламажа за Македонија

Погледнете некои од неговите антимакедонски пропагандистички видеа:

FYROMian Myth Stating That "the Name Macedonia was Forbidden in Greece Before 1988" Dispelled

Serbian Cultural Heritage in Southern Serbia [Northern FYROM">

Pseudomacedonian Propaganda Revealed: The Case of Gojko Subotić's Interview [28-IV-2009">

Изменето од MakedonRazor - 01.Мај.2009 во 17:43

Asya напиша: Koj tropa gluposti? Pa, vidi podobro, koj i zabranuva na Makedonija da se vika kako shto saka? Za zhal, vo realniot svet, zakonot opredeluva shto e pravo, i shto - krivo,

Асја извини ама ти ни малку немаш познавања за правото и за државата. После тврдењето дека политичките партии се јавна власт мислам дека треба да се поштедиш од исмевање и кажување слични глупости. Ова го велам за да не ти се смеат сите и на политика.
А да не говориме па и за Уставот што зборуваше.

Изменето од macedon_alex - 20.Февруари.2009 во 00:56

Вој Васко Поп Петревски ли е?