МАКЕДОНЦИТЕ-Антички Македонци или Словени

naemnik напиша: borec напиша: Англиската археологија за Словените на британските острови Poglednite go ovoa, do sega go nemashe vidno ovoa, sega pred malce go najde: for February, 1699. 83 of their ancient Country, destroyed by Vespasian, as they al- ledge. He likewise confutes their Opinion of their being descended from Frisius, Son to Clogio, King of France, and that his Posterity paid a Tribute of 260 Oxen to the French, as a Token of Homage, and thinks it rather true, that the French derive their Origin from the Freezlanders, according to Beatus Rhenanus and Adrianus Ju- nius. Then he attacks the Opinion of those who say, the Frison's are descended from Grunius the Trojan, the Builder of Groningen, and therefore writ them Phrysii, as nearer the Phryges their Progeni- tors, and at last tells us his own Sentiments, that Freso, the Foun- der of their Nation, with his Brethren Saxo and Bruno, came from an Indian Province called Benedicta Fresia ; where having served under Alexander the Great, and not daring to stay in the Coun- try after his Death took shipping with what they could bring off, and landing in this Country, called it Fresia, after his own Name. This he insists upon at large in this Third Book, and thinks it the more probable, because the Story of Saxo, the Founder of the Saxon Nation, agrees with it. He says all Authors, Crantzius ex- cepted, agree. That the Saxons were some Remains of the Mace- donian Army ; and that before they came into Germany, they were called Macedonians ; for this he quotes the German Chro- nicle, printed at Mentz, in 1482. the Annals of Freezland, and others. His next Proof for this is ancient Rhimes, Constant Tradition, and the Universal Opinion of the Frisons, who have entertained it from Father to Son successively, and convey'd it to one another by Rhimes, a Custom, says he, which the most prudent Nations have made use of, as the readiest Preservative against Oblivion. He tells us moreover, that all the Freezland. Historians he hath seen, give their Suffrage this way. As a further Proof of this, he alledges, That the Frisons were constantly great Lovers of Learning, and therefore could easily pre- serve their Origin and Antiquities from Oblivion. He says also, that Freso, their Founder, was versed in all the Learning of the Greeks, and erected a sort of Academies in many places, where Youth were instructed in Learning, and the Art of War ; and that he erected one particularly at Stavren, near Stavo's Temple, and placed a great Library in the Temple it self.

A be kaj go najde ova - ALAL DA TI E!!!!!!!      

Ova objasnuva mnogu raboti - zoshto Germancite ne podrzuvaat, zosto imaat izjavi kakao ovie;

IF EUROPE LOSES MACEDONIA?

The mid-century German authors did not make any distinction between ancient Macedonia and any other Macedonian country. As far as they were concerned, Macedonia has always existed as an entity. They acknowledged that Macedonia offered Europe the best examples of wisdom. Therefore, according to them, if Europe were to lose Macedonia it would soon be lost itself, says Wolf Oschlies.

I would not bother the readers, but I think that such a work, like Brandt’s literary poem, has contributed to the formation of the German sympathy towards the Macedonians. This sympathy still exists and is shown by the words of the German Foreign Minister, Klaus Kinkel who, during the visit of his Macedonian counterpart Blago Handziski to Bonn, said:” Macedonia is very much liked in Germany.”

Wolf Oschlies, Berlin

The greatest king was, of course, Alexander the Macedonian. The Germans knew that without a doubt. Macedonia was a very popular subject among the Germans at the time. This was the 15th century--the time when the Turks occupied the Balkans. Most Germans did not know anything about Bosnia or Bulgaria, but they all knew Macedonia-- they knew what and where it was. The scholar Brandt knew all these countries by their classical names. Chapter 10 entitled About the Fall of Religion deals with the military campaign of the Turks in the Balkans. It is a kind of atlas drawn by Brandt as an expression of his sincere sympathy for the losses of Christian Europe:
“How much has Europe lost in such a short time?

 
I isto taka ZOSHTO SE TOLKU PAMETNI I USPESHNI!!! 

Sto se odnesuva za Britancite jas mislam deka I TIE SE OD ISTO POTEKLO - megutoa ja imaat prifateno Grchkata propaganda t.e hellenizmot ushte odamna, za koi i den denes imaat posledici.

Za da ja potkrepam mojava teza eve nekolku zapisi sto go potvrduvaat hellenistichkoto vlijanie kon niv:

- The earliest known settlement in Plymouth, England dates back to this era.  (ova se Ethiopjani - pravoto poteklo na Grcite) rashireni po svetov  za  nivno OKUPIRANJE I PREVLAST). Ova mnogu poubavo se gleda kako kompletna slika  na Ethiopjanite ushte od samiot niven pochetok, kade jasno se gledaat i nivnite naseluvanja na Balkanot t.e Makedonija ili deneshna Grcija; 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Century_BC

- Tiberius Claudius wrote about the movements of some Greek tribes into the Balkan peninsula: 

“Among these Celts, if the word is to have any significance, (are included) even the Achaen Greeks, who had established themselves for some time in the Upper Danube Valley before pushing southward into Greece. Yes, the Greeks are comparative newcomers to Greece. They displaced the native Pelasgians ... This happened not long before the Trojan War; the Dorian Greeks came still later -eighty years after the Trojan War. Other Celts of the same race invaded France and Italy at about the same time."

- Celtic Influence. In 282-280 B.C., a Celtic army of about 170,000 led by Brennos and Achicorius entered Macedonia and, with Bolgios, overwhelmed the country. The Celtic army swept into Greece, defeating the Greeks at Thermopylae, and went on to sack the temple of Delphi, the most sacred site of the Hellenic world, before withdrawing. The Celtic army eventually withdrew in an orderly manner, taking their loot with them. No Greek army was strong enough to attack them. The Celtic invasions had a lasting effect on Greek consciousness, being commemorated in Greek literature. 

Though some remained as mercenaries, the bulk of the Celtic armies moved north again, having found little room to settle in populated Greece and Macedonia. The Celts remained in Thrace, though they were Hellenized. The Scordisci had established a prosperous and strong kingdom around modern Belgrade, and one Celtic tribe settled on the slopes of Haemos. However, most went further north and east, some even settling in Asia Minor, in Galatia.